Saturday, November 24, 2007

The End

The last chapter offered little of anything new and worthy of comment. By "inspiring men" she mainly means confronting, shaming and condemning:



I would often tell men I dated that because they were over thirty and still unmarried, they lacked biblical leadership that requires securing a wife.

Then why did you go on a date with them to start with and what on earth were you doing dating anyways?

One of her action steps was to get rid of singles ministries. I remember Pastor Karl stating that none of the marriages that have come out of his singles ministries have ended in divorce. I think I'll take my stand on that before I follow any suggestions she offers.

In some ways she reminds me a bit of authors like Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins who militantly present that not only is their position the only reasonable and virtuous one, but the other position is the root of all evils.

The end.

12 comments:

Mei-Ling said...

Gee, I just have to urge to plow my garden under, sell my house, move back with my parents seventy miles away, go speed dating with men closer to puberty than adulthood and tell them how spiritually inadequate they are when I refuse to see them again.

God bless the man who married her - he may need all the help he can get. If shame is her tool of choice she may have morphed it into the nag tool and that's just what EVERY man wants to come home to.

Paula said...

Dude, why in Hades did you keep reading this thing? You were already upset by it so why did you finish it? (I also genuinely want an answer to why you read this whole thing.)

Paula said...

I'd also like to add that I have owned my own house for over a year and have never met a man who didn't find that incredibly hot. This woman can think what she wants. My guess is that she's having missionary sex once every two weeks (for procreation purposes only).

Steve Lamp said...

Yeah, I thought about stopping, but then it was sort of a challenge. I couldn't let such things go unchallenged and wanted to provide a rebuttal to all of her arguments.

Snoyarc said...

Thank you for reading this so I don't waste my time on it. I have no idea what this woman was thinking or how she managed to get a husband, but I don't think I want to be that kind of a woman... ever.

Hugs & Love

Anonymous said...

OH MY GOSH, this book is ridiculous! Coming from many years of single life and now just a few in married life....the quotes you pulled out are unbelievable and a set-back to Christianity and to life in general! WOW. Please end that books distribution as quickly as possible!!! I pray any non-married folks will not believe and do her recomendations. Every persons story is different and how we grow, develop, change, and move through life is unique and individual. Yes married life is great with a wonderful spouse, but it certainly isn't without pain, work, and self sacrifice! It is a different place, not better, and certainly not more Godly. Both are equal. I'd better stop now before I write a book!!!!

Quebecca said...

This woman is a FOOL.

Really, I think she is one of the deceptions that Christ warns us about.

This goes to show you can get all kinds of crap published, and people will buy it and read it.

God help her husband and anyone else who thinks (or doesn't think) like she does. She is completely disrespectful to men AND women. So basically, to all human beings.

Unfortunately, there are people who seem to think along these lines. I know some of them and needless to say cannot relate to them about my current life at all because I know I am being disapproved of.

Sara said...

Okay, don't everyone come after me. I agree that the book has it's....er....major flaws....

Aunt Jenny said...

Well done Steve.. I have enjoyed pouring over your well thought-out outlines this book's chapters.. wasn't this started as a challenge from Sara for men to read the book - what are her thoughts? (I am so lost in the maze of links that I can't find her blog right now!)

Steve Lamp said...

http://footnotes-footnotes.blogspot.com/2007/08/men-and-women-read-this-book.html

David said...

Wow. That was totally ridiculous.

As much as I dislike being single, it is something that I am slowly becoming accustomed to. Like swimming in ice water. Really, I think it sucks, but I figure I've got a long way to go before anything happens...so I might as well get used to it.

I have to tell you, sometimes I do feel like being single is unnatural. But I feel that is a personal thing. I do not understand men and women who wish to remain single, but I respect it as their choice. This woman's assertion that single people, by choice or by coincidence, are wrong is outrageous. I could see if she was pointing out that people who want to be single in the permanent sense as a problem (she would still be wrong, but it would make more sense to me because she lacks a sense of perspective). But she also seems to lash out at people like me who ideally would like to be married, but don't have anything in the way of options right now. It's not like there's a legion of women clawing at my door, y'know? How is that supposed to be my fault? Because I'm not a good leader? For Pete's sake I run worship at SNA and play for IV too, have done a sermon and lead more than a handful of Bible studies. What do you call a "leader in the Christian community" then?

Marriage is cultural. She can't reference to Jewish culture or Indian culture and tell the world it has to follow suit. Arranged marriage occurred because there were traditional things associated with it. In Europe, it was beneficial to have daughters married off because you received a payment for losing your daughter. In China, having daughters was considered bad because when you lost them, you had no one to take care of you in old age. Marriage has many cultural connotations. In America, it is very much a thing of individual pursuit and attraction.

The thing is, marriage ultimately means nothing. We will become unified to Christ and to everyone when the Kingdom stands complete, and that is something that will be greater than any marriage here on Earth. I have no idea how that is, but I know God is awesome enough to pull it off. Evidence of this (to me) being the question the pharisees ask about marriage in heaven, to which Christ replies (paraphrasing) "Dude, that doesn't matter once you are dead, I've got something better to offer in heaven."

I hope Sara paid you money or something for reading that book. You will never get your time or energy back. Demand reparations :D!

Go reward yourself and cool off by reading that makes sense and is actually good, like Surprised by Joy or something ...sometimes, I think CS Lewis is the only theologian who isn't full of crap, and is actually logical. I haven't read a single "wrong" thing in his writings so far *knocks on wood*.

Anonymous said...

Maken has a blog so this doesn't really have to be the end. You could be comment number seventy-five on her most recent post. Just think of the all the things you could say...